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    <title>Europe indépendante? Egalité des citoyens? by bernard Maurice</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/588/#comment805</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>L'anglais s'est impos&eacute; comme &quot;lingua franca&quot; pour deux raisons principales. </p><p>Tout d'abord c'est la langue du num&eacute;ro un du colonialisme&nbsp; au XIX&egrave;me si&egrave;cle, l'Angleterre, puis du principal n&eacute;o-colonialisme&nbsp; au XX&egrave;me si&egrave;cle, lesUSA. Comme disait La Fontaine dans Le loup et l'agneau: &quot;La raison du plus fort est toujours la meilleure&quot;.</p><p>Une deuxi&egrave;me raison est la d&eacute;sinformation sur l'esperanto, la langue internationale neutre parl&eacute;e par plus d'un million de personnes&nbsp; dans plus de cent pays depuis plus de cent ans. </p><p>Depuis quelques ann&eacute;es l'information sur Internet permet de lever partiellement ce silence. C'est par exemple la vingti&egrave;me langue avec plus de cent mille articles dans l'encyclop&eacute;die libre Wikipedia. Quelques citations permettent de rep&eacute;rer des qualit&eacute;s importantes de l'esperanto.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><strong class="spip"> L&eacute;on TOLSTO&Iuml;, <strong>l'&eacute;crivain russe le plus c&eacute;l&egrave;br</strong>e</strong> souligne en 1894 <strong>sa facilit&eacute; et ses&nbsp; avantages.</strong><br />  <p class="spip"><em class="spip">&quot;J&rsquo;ai trouv&eacute;&nbsp; l&rsquo;esp&eacute;ranto tr&egrave;s simple. Il est si facile qu&rsquo;ayant re&ccedil;u, il y a six ans, une grammaire, un dictionnaire et des articles de cet idiome, j&rsquo;ai pu arriver, au bout de deux petites heures, sinon &agrave; l&rsquo;&eacute;crire, du moins &agrave; lire couramment la langue. (...) Les sacrifices que fera tout homme de notre monde europ&eacute;en, en consacrant quelque temps &agrave; son &eacute;tude sont tellement petits, et les r&eacute;sultats qui peuvent en d&eacute;couler tellement immenses, qu&rsquo;on ne peut se refuser &agrave; faire cet essai.&quot; </em></p><br /><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Jean Jaur&egrave;s </strong>(1859 - 1914),&nbsp; leader du socialisme fran&ccedil;ais, hostile &agrave; la guerre,&nbsp; assassin&eacute; le 31 juillet 1914. Il souhaite <strong>son</strong> <strong>emploi par l'Internationale socialiste </strong></p>  <p class="spip">&nbsp;Il proposa au Congr&egrave;s de l&rsquo;Internationale Socialiste de Stuttgart en 1907 l&rsquo;emploi de l&rsquo;esp&eacute;ranto pour les informations diffus&eacute;es par l&rsquo;Office Bruxellois de l&rsquo;Internationale.</p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p>   <p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Inazo Nitobe</strong> (1862 - 1933) scientifique, membre de l&rsquo;Acad&eacute;mie Imp&eacute;riale du Japon souligne&nbsp;<strong> sa prononciation facile</strong>.Il participa au Congr&egrave;s International d'Esperanto de Prague en 1921 pour se rendre compte de l&rsquo;efficacit&eacute; de la langue.</p>   <p class="spip"><em class="spip"> &quot;On peut affirmer avec une certitude absolue que l&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto est de huit &agrave; dix fois plus facile que n&rsquo;importe quelle langue &eacute;trang&egrave;re et qu&rsquo;il est possible d&rsquo;acqu&eacute;rir une parfaite &eacute;locution sans quitter son propre pays. Ceci est en soi un r&eacute;sultat tr&egrave;s appr&eacute;ciable.&quot;</em></p>   <p class="spip">&quot;Esperanto as an International Language&quot; (1922). Rapport r&eacute;alis&eacute; en tant que Secr&eacute;taire G&eacute;n&eacute;ral de la Soci&eacute;t&eacute; des Nations.</p> <p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p>  <p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Henri Barbusse&nbsp;</strong> (1873 &shy; 1935) &eacute;crivain fran&ccedil;ais; dans &quot;Le Feu&quot; (1916, prix Goncourt) , il d&eacute;nonca l&rsquo;horreur de la guerre de 1914-1918. Il souligne <strong>le r&ocirc;le initiateur cl&eacute; d'une langue internationale.</strong></p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip">&quot;Ceux qui ont con&ccedil;u l&rsquo;id&eacute;e d&rsquo;une langue internationale, ont eu cette gloire et ce g&eacute;nie d&rsquo;entreprendre l&rsquo;union des Hommes par le commencement.</em></p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip">Il ne faut pas dire&nbsp;: il y a des choses plus importantes et plus urgentes &agrave; faire que d&rsquo;apprendre l&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto. On n&rsquo;a plus le droit de diff&eacute;rer cette mission commune qui se pr&eacute;sente &agrave; chacun.&quot; </em></p>  <p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;L&eacute;on Blum&nbsp;</strong> (1872 - 1950) y voit un facteur essentiel de <strong>paix.</strong></p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip"> &quot;Je voudrais que dans tous les villages et dans toutes les villes, on enseigne l&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto qui serait un facteur pour l&rsquo;entente des peuples et le plus s&ucirc;r moyen pour maintenir la paix universelle.&quot; </em></p><br /><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Maurice Genevoix&nbsp;</strong> (1890 - 1980), &eacute;crivain fran&ccedil;ais&nbsp; prix Goncourt 1925, Acad&eacute;mie fran&ccedil;aise en 1946. Il consid&egrave;re <strong>sa clart&eacute; d'expression, son esth&eacute;tique et sa neutalit&eacute;.</strong> Interview &agrave; la radio sur la cha&icirc;ne nationale par Pierre Delaire, le 18 f&eacute;vrier 1955. Quelques extraits&nbsp;:</p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip"> &quot;Ce que je souhaite, et ce que je souhaite vivement, ce que je souhaite de tout mon c&oelig;ur, c&rsquo;est que les nations se soucient d&rsquo;abord de tout ce qui peut les rapprocher, de tout ce qui peut les amener &agrave; une compr&eacute;hension et &agrave; une tol&eacute;rance mutuelle - et dans ce domaine-l&agrave; une seconde langue, vraiment internationale et commune, peut &ecirc;tre - cela va de soi - d&rsquo;extr&ecirc;me cons&eacute;quence, d&rsquo;une bienfaisance sans prix, pour les g&eacute;n&eacute;rations &agrave; venir...</em></p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip">L&rsquo;esp&eacute;ranto n&rsquo;est pas du tout une langue uniforme, une langue robot, mais, au contraire, une langue naturelle et souple...</em></p>    <p class="spip"><em class="spip">L&rsquo;esp&eacute;ranto est en mesure d&rsquo;exprimer les nuances les plus subtiles de la pens&eacute;e et du sentiment, elle est propre &agrave; permettre, par cons&eacute;quent, l&rsquo;expression la plus juste, la plus litt&eacute;raire, la plus esth&eacute;tique et de nature &agrave; satisfaire les esprits les plus ombrageux et les plus particularistes, et il ne peut pas porter ombrage aux fid&egrave;les des langues nationales...&quot;</em></p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Jean XXIII</strong>&nbsp; (1881 - 1963), pape de 1953 &agrave; 1963. Dans un souci d&rsquo;aggiornamento (&quot;mise &agrave; jour&quot;) de l&rsquo;&Eacute;glise, il convoqua le second concile &oelig;cum&eacute;nique du Vatican et publia notamment l&rsquo;encyclique Pacem in terris (1963). Il souligne son <strong>actualit&eacute;.</strong>  </p><p class="spip"><em class="spip"> L&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto est la langue universelle de notre &eacute;poque. </em></p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p>  <p class="spip"><strong class="spip"><br /></strong></p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p>  <p class="spip"><strong class="spip">Robert Kennedy&nbsp;</strong> (1925 - 1968), homme politique am&eacute;ricain, attorney g&eacute;n&eacute;ral, fr&egrave;re de John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Il fut assassin&eacute; alors qu&rsquo;il &eacute;tait candidat &agrave; la pr&eacute;sidence des &Eacute;tats-Unis. </p>  <p class="spip">S&eacute;nateur am&eacute;ricain. Il souligne <strong>l'utilit&eacute; d'une langue internationale neutre</strong>.</p>  <p class="spip"><em class="spip"> C&rsquo;est tr&egrave;s probable qu&rsquo;une langue neutre serait plus utile comme moyen de communication entre les diverses nations du monde. L&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto est d&eacute;j&agrave; depuis longtemps l&rsquo;un des principaux candidats &agrave; cette fonction. </em></p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">pour Willy Brandt&nbsp;</strong> (1913 - 1992),&nbsp; chef du parti social-d&eacute;mocrate SPD (1964 &agrave; 1987), chancelier de la R.F.A. de 1969 &agrave; 1974.&nbsp; Pr&eacute;sident de l&rsquo;Internationale socialiste de 1976 &agrave; 1992. Prix Nobel de la paix 1971: <strong>l'importance de l'intercompr&eacute;hension et le r&ocirc;le cl&eacute; des institutions internationales </strong></p>   <p class="spip"><em class="spip">&quot;En ao&ucirc;t 1970, il t&eacute;moigne, une fois de plus, sa sympathie aux efforts des travailleurs esp&eacute;rantistes par le t&eacute;l&eacute;gramme suivant&nbsp;:</em></p>   <p class="spip"><em class="spip">Aux participants du XLIIIe congr&egrave;s universel des travailleurs esp&eacute;rantistes, j&rsquo;adresse mes cordiales salutations. Je me r&eacute;jouis du grand nombre d&rsquo;h&ocirc;tes d&rsquo;Europe et d&rsquo;autres continents r&eacute;unis &agrave; Augsbourg. Le but de l&rsquo;intercompr&eacute;hension pacifique au-del&agrave; des conceptions diverses et des fronti&egrave;res m&eacute;rite le soutien de toutes les forces spirituelles et politiques. </em></p>   <p class="spip">&Agrave; une autre occasion&nbsp;:</p>   <p class="spip"><em class="spip">Les succ&egrave;s de l&rsquo;Esp&eacute;ranto sont reconnus par l&rsquo;UNESCO. Que l&rsquo;ONU veuille bien insister avec efficacit&eacute; pour que l&rsquo;on poursuive l&rsquo;&oelig;uvre commenc&eacute;e par le Docteur Zamenhof.&quot; </em></p><p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">Franz Jonas </strong>(1899 - 1974) pr&eacute;sident social-d&eacute;mocrate de la R&eacute;publique autrichienne de 1949 &agrave; 1974, esp&eacute;rantiste. Il <strong>critique les vieilles m&eacute;thodes inad&eacute;quates</strong> de communication internationale.   </p><p class="spip">Il salua la presse mondiale en esp&eacute;ranto lors de sa visite &agrave; Paris en avril 1972.</p>   <p class="spip">Bien que la vie internationale devienne toujours plus intense, le monde officiel perp&eacute;tue les vieilles et inad&eacute;quates m&eacute;thodes de compr&eacute;hension linguistique</p>   <p class="spip">Discours prononc&eacute; en esp&eacute;ranto en 1970, pour l&rsquo;inauguration du Congr&egrave;s Universel de Vienne</p> <p class="spip">&nbsp;</p> <p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p class="spip"><strong class="spip">&nbsp;Umberto ECO</strong> en 1994 souligne <strong>sa construction intelligente</strong><br /> </p>   <p class="spip"><em class="spip"> J&rsquo;ai &eacute;tudi&eacute; la grammaire de l&rsquo;esp&eacute;ranto - &ccedil;a ne veut pas dire que j&rsquo;ai appris &agrave; le parler - et j&rsquo;ai constat&eacute; que c&rsquo;est une langue construite avec intelligence et qui a une histoire tr&egrave;s belle. </em></p> <p class="spip">&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
    <author>bernard Maurice</author>
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    <title>Facebook is no. 1 on the 'to do' list for new PES activist groups by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment752</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hi Desmond - it's my impression that developing a Facebook presence is one of the first things that new PES activist groups do! Facebook is a very easy way to keep in touch and coordinate - especially for people who don't meet that often or live far from each other. So we should certainly continue taking advantage of Facebook - I guess the activist group in my home country should take the inspiration from Dublin and appear on Facebook before too long as well :-) ]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>More on adoption rights by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/585/#comment748</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Neonpop: I agree with you, a lot of progress needs to happen in Denmark and the rest of Europe. I didn't know about Norway, I'm glad to hear that they set a good example! </p><p>Hanneke: I actually think that the Netherlands is much more advanced than Denmark when it comes to LGBT rights. Thanks for the insights - and I agree: there's much more to do, also in the countries that see themselves in front!</p>]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>Thank You by desmondotoole</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment746</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment746</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Thank you to everyone for their good wishes. It really encourages us to know that there are many colleagues across the socialist and social democrat family in Europe who wish us well. Desmond.]]></description>
    <author>desmondotoole</author>
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    <title>A cheer from CPH! by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment744</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Great initiative, I hope we'll find ways to work together in the upcoming election campaign! Good luck to the PES activists Dublin! In Denmark we also have a rising PES activist movement, so please give us some good inspiration :-) ]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>Win Ireland back! by together</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment743</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment743</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Now we have to win Ireland back for the EU!]]></description>
    <author>together</author>
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    <title>Congratulations by RuiPedroNascimento</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment742</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment742</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Congratulations to you all.]]></description>
    <author>RuiPedroNascimento</author>
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    <title>congratulations by lazett</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment741</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/610/#comment741</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[congratulations, desmond! good to know that PES activists Dublin is now giving its first steps! hope to hear more from you soon!]]></description>
    <author>lazett</author>
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    <title>Info from the Netherlands by Hanneke</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/585/#comment739</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/585/#comment739</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rikke, </p><p>&nbsp;You are fully right to question the situation that a single parent can adopt, but a gay couple cannot. This is actually why gay couples were also given the official right to adopt in the Netherlands by law in 2005... It was felt that it is ridiculous that a single parent can adopt a child, even if this single person would be gay, but when he or she starts a relationship he/she would no longer be eligible... That makes no sense, and would be discriminatory. And in fact, the European Court of Justice overruled France when it denied the right to adoption to a gay person, judging it to be illegal discremination. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1706514,00.html?xid=feed-cnn-topics. In reality however, same sex couples were allowed to adopt children before that too. It was just a matter of adjusting the law to reality. </p><p>&nbsp;The Netherlands, like the Nordic countries, are very forward with this type of regulation, and of course there are criticisms. As the discriminitory objections can no longer be supported, let's look at the other argument that comes up: children from same sex parents would get picked at in school, and would suffer the consequences. This means that the problems is not the children, but it's how other people react to them? Shouldnt we focus on creating more tolerance and real human rights, changing the reactions that other people might have, instead of denying children in need a good home?</p><p>&nbsp;It is clear discrimination, and even though it unfortunately takes time, I am convinced the whole of Europe, and beyond that, will see reason. So yes, policitical lobbying would be a great idea! </p>]]></description>
    <author>Hanneke</author>
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    <title>The Spanish experience by capelo</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/595/#comment730</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/595/#comment730</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that Roma people need to be supported by the european institutions, primarily those of Rumania. Let me propose you the experience and effort that spanish people have done (both romani and not romani - gitanos y payos we say) during the last three decades. Although the problem of <span class="q">marginalization is not </span>completely resolved for everyone, from around 600.000 spanish gypsies, more than 60% live in their own&nbsp;houses,&nbsp;mixed with the rest of spaniards. Moreover, we all acknowledge and admire&nbsp;their important contribution to the spanish music, dance and culture. </p>]]></description>
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    <title>Well done! by desmondotoole</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment729</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment729</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rikke, a very useful blog about using Facebook (amongst other Web2 tools). We have just established PES Activists Dublin here in Ireland and we&nbsp;quickly developed a Facebook presence. The immediate result was a rise in membership of our PES group. But you're right to point out that in common with analogue campaigning, on-line campaigning is hard work too! Regards ... Desmond O'Toole.</p>]]></description>
    <author>desmondotoole</author>
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    <title>Yes, definitely by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/595/#comment728</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/595/#comment728</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree , Victor - we really need to deal with the Roma issue! I think your last bullet - informing people in Europe about the Romas and their culture - is very, very important. I've lived in several European cities and have met Roma - and prejudices against Roma - in all of them.&nbsp; People need to be better informed to truly understand the problems that Romas face. </p><p>See you in Vienna! </p>]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>Soon in Vienna by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment727</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment727</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Hi Kim, nice to hear from you and thanks for your kind comment. I look very much forward to seeing you and all the other PES activists in Vienna!&nbsp; :-) ]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>great workshop by kim</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment726</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment726</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rikke</p><p>nice to heare that you will be doing a workshop. </p><p>It is indeed very important that PES activist learn to use the internet for campaigning. Whit the EU election we will face a different campaign across borders, and learning to use internet and other new sources is very usefull. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I will try to go to your workshop, looking forword of seeing you again</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>kim</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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    <title>Work work work by rikkeindenmark</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment725</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment725</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Hej J&oslash;rgen, tak for din positive kommentar. Yes, we do need to help our candidates with online campaigning. It's a lot of work to maintain social network profiles - and stay active and visible in the networks. Social networking is often talked about as being 'easy marketing', since your connections are&nbsp;expected to spread the word for you. But it really takes a lot of effort getting to the stage where the campaign runs by itself! It's not enough just being online... &nbsp;]]></description>
    <author>rikkeindenmark</author>
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    <title>Taking online campaigning seriously by toldsted</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment724</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/594/#comment724</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[<span>Dear Rikke</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Thanks for a good blog on a very important issue.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>This will probably be the most important political channel of communication in the very near future - also in Europe.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>We will have to help our candidates with this. Especially I think they need help on how regularly update their sites in an easy ways - e.g. with Jaiku.</span> <p>Regards J&oslash;rgen</p>]]></description>
    <author>toldsted</author>
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    <title>lui? by Maitresinh</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/574/#comment718</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Le candidat de Dany c'est..lui ?</p><p>En tout cas, pour les verts, et pour l'europe, &ccedil;a pimenterait bien le d&eacute;bat...avec peut etre l'assurance d'intersser davantage les citoyens, comme j'en revais a vois haute dans un article de mon blog.</p><p>Mais ce sont la des bonnes nouvelles...&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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    <title>les verts sont pour by jbdivry</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/574/#comment717</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Cohn Bendit a affirm&eacute; qu'il &eacute;tait pour samedi dernier &agrave; lyon, &agrave; l'occasion des 2e Etats G&eacute;n&eacute;raux de l'Europe lors de la s&eacute;ance pleini&egrave;re de cl&ocirc;ture. J'&eacute;tais l&agrave;</p><p>Je pense qu'il a une id&eacute;e de qui pourrait &ecirc;tre le candidat des verts ...</p><p>pour le Modem il faudrait obtenir le soutien de Quitterie et du G&eacute;n&eacute;ral Mourillon.</p><p>De toute fa&ccedil;on si le PSE adopte l'id&eacute;e du chef de file, t&ecirc;te de liste et l'id&eacute;e de J Delors dans une plateforme programatique, le message serait fort et clair.</p>]]></description>
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    <title>:) by Maitresinh</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/555/#comment716</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;</p><p> aujourd'hui, voila le schema</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>1- Peuple -&gt; parlement</p><p>2- Parlement -&gt; president</p><p>3- le conseil fait ce qu'il veut </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Dans l'optique de Delors :</p><p>Peuple -&gt; parlement -&gt; president =  le conseil doit accepter la volont&eacute; populaire dont le parlement est le representant !</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>J'espere que les socialistes feront avancer cette id&eacute;e, car elle est simple et ne depend que de eux !</p><p>Pas de negociations interetatiques, de reformes compliqu&eacute;es, de referendums a risques.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>il suffit de prendre le pouvoir la oui il est. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
    <author>Maitresinh</author>
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    <title>necessaire.... by Maitresinh</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/en/european-democracy-and-diversity/post/574/#comment715</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&ccedil;a me parait necessaire dans la mesure ou si le PSE est le seul &agrave; presenter un candidat...cela perd tout son sens.</p><p>on ne peu presenter tout seul &quot;son candidat&quot;, mais cela n'aura pas le meme impact que si tous les partis s'y mettent. Dans ce cas, a l'echelle de l'europe, l'id&eacute;e s'imposera de facto et mettra le Conseil au pied du mur !&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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